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whats the point of fantasy novels if youre still going to treat women like shit

actually the point of it is to show that women were treated like more shit back then and since most fantasy novels take place in medevil/premedevil times, women were literally seen as breeders and only knew to please their husbands and raise their children and sew so women are treated actually very well considering what it used to be.
don’t post stuff like that pls thanks bye

“Hi I’m basement bob and I think potatoes and dragons should be allowed in fantasy novels despite being entirely historically inaccurate but extreme sexism which literally hurts real live woman on a daily basis is super cool and has to be included. Can’t be historically inaccurate lol.”

Fantasy novels are not remotely “Accurate” to any period of human history ever recorded and anyone who seriously thinks that stuff like Game of Thrones is “Historically accurate” in any way shape or form I’m going to go ahead and assume flunked history class

“Most fantasy novels take place in medieval/pre-medieval times”. They dont. Theyre fantasy. They take place in their own world and their own technology. They often have similarities to those times but are fundamentally their own thing and history doesnt apply to them

Apparently adding dragons and ogres and sorcery is fine but taking away misogyny is going too far

‘dont post stuff like that’

Also, medieval women raised crops, wrote books, made music, made clothes from scratch, tended animals, brewed beer, baked bread, balanced the books, and yes, even commanded soldiers in a pinch. Even noblewomen! A castle involved a lot of administrative work, and guess whose job that was? (Hint: not Mr. ‘Going on a Crusade, back never probably’)

So much pseudo-medieval fantasy isn’t content with merely the misogyny of the period they claim to emulate, they have to add extra misogyny so that, presumably, the wimminz feel properly grateful rather than kind of wishing we could be an abbess.

Look, medieval times and ancient times in general aren’t gender egalitarian utopias, but a lot of the sexism and misogyny we are familiar with today in society, are recent additions, or resulting from recent additions.

i.e. Yeah, women didn’t have the right to vote until like a century ago – but go back another century or two, and most people in general didn’t have the right to vote, either. Women have historically been sidelined out of “professional” leadership and politics – but up until the last few centuries, most societies had other areas in life, other strata of leadership, that women were either a part of or even dominated. (i.e. We regard religion as a relatively private or local matter today, but in many ancient Roman or Hellenic socieities, temple and religious matters were part of public life, and guess who usually headed those spheres?)

The reason why most fantasy has to add sexism or misogyny is to justify why a male character who doesn’t address sexism or misogyny that exists is still a “progressive” character. A male character who accepts a female leader as long as he can sexualize her is progressive compared to one who wouldn’t accept her at all – but compared to a society of men who are okay or even accustomed to take leadership and orders from women, he looks like an ass.

I can’t get over this shit.

actually the point of it is to show that women were treated like more
shit back then […] so women
(now) are treated actually very well considering what it used to be.

That’s some tacit acknowledgement that women are treated like shit and that you gotta reach into fantasy to show them that it could be worse..